We had 15 people fill out the survey, and average course rankings are now located in the COURSE section of this website. I'll give some highlights below:
- Five courses got perfect "3" ratings. Esplanade, Lakewood National, OCN (Crooked Cat), Ritz-Carlton and Southern Hills. Southern Hills was the only one from this list rated by all 15 respondents.
- Both World Woods courses received 13 "3" ratings. Both also got one "1" rating, by Mike Ho, who has never broken 90 there in league play. Ho was also the only person to give a "1" to Southern Dunes, after shooting a 92.
- Speaking of voting with your scorecard — Gorecki was the only person to give Waterlefe a rating of "1." His gross scores on record at Waterlefe from least to most recent: 105, 114, 106, and a WD after shooting
64 on the front nine (the "
Pool Pump Incident" round).
- The Claw at USF would be ranked the 2nd lowest course, if not for a "3" that one of you gave it. Which is not believable, considering it got eight "1s." I know who you are.
- Pebble Creek was the lowest rated course, and received the most "1s" - nine of them.
- Courses that failed to get at least one "3" vote: Lexington Oaks, Heritage Harbor, Tarpon Woods, Crescent Oaks, Plantation Palms, Summerfield, Lansbrook, Freedom Fairways, Northdale, Babe Zaharias, and Pebble Creek.
- The color-coded formatting on the COURSES page shows what I've always suspected — people like
easy "fun" courses a LOT more than they like difficult courses.
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I asked you to name some other top tier courses we haven't played, and here are some of the responses - along with the Club's official reaction to each location:
Bayou Club - Private course in Largo. I've been trying to get us on here for two years. Both summers they were willing to have us, but some of the greens were closed due to renovation. I'll try again in Summer 2020.
Bella Collina - We played here in the 2018 Rapture. Dan Snyder owns it and they don't really
like outside play. They charged us a non-negotiable rate of $90 plus tax in 2018. Coupled with the 3+ hour round trip from Tampa... and you have a course that won't be on our schedule.
Black Diamond - One of the best in Florida, but also about 1.5 hours from actual Tampa (we try to keep travel to 1 hour away from downtown). Played here in the 2017 Rapture. Gorecki's future league is paying $85 this year (taking 28+ people) to play it. We paid $75 two years ago. Off-season trips are possible, but I don't see it for standard league play. And honestly, we should be staying overnight if we go.
Celebration - Quirky course just west of Orlando. Attempted to schedule for the 2019 Summer DPT Masters. Renovations caused us to book Falcon's Fire instead. We'll try to play here in 2020.
Grand Cypress (New) - Played here in the 2016 Rapture for $70. Currently replanting all their greens. It's fun. We'll be back at some point.
Mission Inn (El Campeon) - 2018 Rapture location, with a rate of $45. They reach out to me every year about coming back. Their other course kinda sucks. Hour and 20 minutes away from Tampa would make for a pretty long day.
Old Memorial - Not going to happen, but if you want to play it, talk to Ho... although I doubt his buddy is going to pay your $200+ greens fees, plus the $100ish for a caddie. Also, in all honesty, most people I know who have played it say it's "meh" at best. Just super exclusive, which gets the blood flowing to some people's loins. You know what's more exclusive? Our Club.
Reunion (Watson & Nicklaus) - 2016 Rapture courses. No reason we couldn't go back here if the price is right.
Sarasota National - Playing here as part of the 2019 Rapture. Great course, lots of fun. You're going to love it. But it's too far for a league event, as it should be called "Venice National."
Shingle Creek - A great course on the south side of Orlando. Hour and 22 minutes from downtown, perhaps longer with all the I-4 construction as you get into the city. Probably too far for us to make you travel. But I'd love to take the league here, depending on the group rate and people's willingness to drive far distances. It's well over $100 in the winter.
Streamsong - Yeah, all three courses are awesome. No, we're not going to schedule a league event, when the FL resident "deal" still costs $120+ after caddie fees and there's always a 90% chance of getting rained out in the summer. However, everyone
should go play these courses. It's just a disgrace they don't have better local pricing like Torrey Pines, Bethpage, and every course in Scotland.
Tranquilo - This used to be a Disney course (Osprey Ridge), and is now owned by the Four Seasons hotel. The Champions Tour has played events here. I've only played it on vouchers they no longer offer. I doubt getting on here would be a problem if we were willing to pay the rates... which are not published.
Westchase - If you think this course is a "3," then you have bad taste in courses. The league has never played here because it's expensive in the winter and unplayable in the rainy months. It's a swamp.
Winter Park - The
ultimate Memorial course. Nine holes. Par 35 (2,400-ish from the tips). Walking only. Nationally acclaimed by literally every major publication. The absolute gold-standard in what municipal courses should be. Would cost about $40 to play a full 18. And yet... it's 2+ hours away from Tampa. It'll never be a league course.
World Woods - Yep. One of you rated both World Woods courses a "3" and then physically typed in "World Woods" into the box below it. Amazing.